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Binoculars in the $800 range

Postby Ron V. on Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:09 am

I am researching a pair of new 10X binoculars. I have roughly $800 to spend, however, if I can get a good quality for less I will. In addition to one or two pairs not sold here, the models I am considering include:

Kahles 10X42
Pentax 10X43 DCF ED
Zeiss Conquest 10X40
Minox HG 10X43

Is there much of a difference between these models?
Is there a huge difference between these $800 range models and some of the better sub-$500 models?
What are some of the pros and cons of the models I have listed?
Are there other models in this range that I have missed?

Any advice you can provide is much appreciated! Hopefully I can get my hands on all of these to look through and test. Sometimes it is tough to do side-by-side comparisons when there are a limited number of optics resources where one lives! :?
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Postby Jne_K on Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:56 am

Hi

Optically, I would rate the Pentax and Minox at the top for resolution and contrast, with the Kahles close behind. The Conquest is certainly good, optically, but not in the level of the Pentax or Minox.

Buildwise, I like the Kahles, with the Pentax and Minox also scoring very well. Have always had an issue with the focusing on the Conquest. Have yet to test one that was smooth, but, then, I am pretty fussy about this feature.

In optics, to get the next 5 or 10% of performance, you have to pay much more. Is it worth it? You have to answer that for yourself, but I have yet to find someone who ever complained about buying too good a binocular.
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Postby Guest on Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:10 pm

Thanks, Joanie. I appreciate the response. Now I just have to find a store that carries these brands so I can compare the features.

How about warranties? Do any of the 3 you like provide better warranties or service than others? Any history of problems or returns with these models?

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Postby Jne_K on Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:41 pm

Hi

No real issues with any of those folks. I don't see it as a deciding factor.
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Postby Ron V. on Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:07 pm

I see you are a fan of Swift. What do you think of the Eaglet 10X42? Is it in the same ballpark as the others I am considering?
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Postby Jne_K on Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:14 pm

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It's a good binocular for its price, but no, not in the same class as a Pentax DCF ED and company. Of course, it is half the price, too.
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Postby Ron V. on Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:37 pm

How about the Steiner Predator and Peregrine? Where do you rate them with the other 3 I am considering?

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Postby stereotruckdriver on Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:03 pm

If you can afford the Pentax ED it is the best optically of the bunch. Doesn't feel as substantial in you're hands as say the Kahles but still excellent build quality. Actually compared extensively with other brands costing more. The Pentax ED will fare very well with the European models costing more. I think alot more Birders and Hunters will be purchasing these as a cost effective allternative to the more expensive brands. The fact is you are not giving up alot optics wise for the difference in price, excellent optics.
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Postby Acenturian on Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:06 pm

In that price range I would look at the Minox HG and the Kahles. Both are very nice. Another option to consider is the Meopta series.
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Postby Ron V. on Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:04 pm

I have looked at Meopta too and I like them. I just want to consider everything in my price range I can.

I have recently noticed some deep discounts on Leupold Golden Ring HDs. Anyone have any experience with these? I am always a bit hesitant with deply discounted items. It leads me to think there may be a problem with them. Is that the case with the Golden Rings? How do they stack up to the original 4 (plus the Meoptas) mentioned above?

Thanks folks!
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Postby stereotruckdriver on Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:50 pm

The Leupold HD are great glass, a little heavy for some people great color and resolution. The Pentax ED's were brighter and I thought they had a touch better resolution. I think you would be happy with any of them, don't care for Steiner think they are over hyped and from what I have compared the only Glass from them I would consider is probably the original Peregrine. Plus all the others have better warranty. See if you can find a couple of the ones you want handle them, bring them up to you're eye's see how they feel. Don't think you will go wrong with any of them. And by all means try the Pentax DCF SP's a little cheaper than the rest but for most application's all the glass you could ever want or need. Good luck...
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Postby Ron V. on Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:49 pm

Thanks, everyone!
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Postby Guest on Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:59 pm

I have not compared the Leupold Golden Rings to the others listed such as the Pentax SP's ED,Khales,Minox or Meopta but compared them side by side with Leica, Swarovski, Zeiss and Nikon Premeire LX and the Golden Rings were not in the same league as those. I was NOT impressed for the money.
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Postby etc on Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:34 am

In that price range, you can get a used Leica Trinovid off Ebay.
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Postby ET on Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:02 am

Is there a huge difference between these $800 range models and some of the better sub-$500 models?

Not much for some. But quality control is better. Also, the "sweet spot" is a little wider, but even a Nikon Monarch is pretty sharp in the center. I have birded with it for 3 years, I like the weight. The eye cups do not stay in place as well.

Zeiss Conquest eye cups are built like a tank. But they feel like a tank, too. :lol:

Good luck.
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Re: Binoculars in the $800 range

Postby Jne_K on Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:12 am

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Yes, there is a difference, though, as always it is not proportionate. Spending twice as much does not get you twice as good, but it does get you better optics. However, spending more can also get you other benefits as far as construction quality and so on.
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