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upgrading monarchs

Postby WstHntr on Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:59 pm

I'm looking to upgrade my Nikon Monarch 8x42mm hunting binos and was looking hard into the Pentax DCF SP 8x43mm, seems to be a really good product
My question how much better than the Leupold Pinnacles 10x42 or my current set they are.

I know no one really gives info on how much waterproofing they provide, but the Pentax claim up to 1m of water... of course that is great if it is raining and im assuming that they wont fog at that price! My major concern is that 1m doesnt seem to b much (not planning on submerging anything), how does that compare to other binos?

I hunt elk, mulies and antelope in CO and the west, with some trips to south texas and alabama, will they tolerated the cold on one side + humidity on the other? At +24oz they seem a little heavy for lugging around...

what are your opinions for these binos and long walks, heavy packs and tough conditions? is the upgrade worth the price difference? the nikons are really light
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Postby Jne_K on Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:02 am

Hi

You will realize better resolution, contrast and image brightness with both the Pinnacles and, especially the SP. Keep in mind that we are talking on the order of 5-10% at most. Is it worth it? You'll have to decide that. Just the nature of the market. Once you get past $300, you pay much more for smaller increases in performance.

Ignore the waterproofing specs. All are fully guaranteed, regardless and that is quite average as waterproofing goes, anyway.

24 oz is actually a bit on the light side for a 42mm glass. 26-28 oz is more average. If you are hiking a lot, might make sense to drop down to a 32mm bino. A lot of mountain hunters have gone to a 32 - great compromise between perfromance and portability.
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Postby ET on Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:48 am

The Pentax SP will be fine, I have th3 e 10x version.

The 8x32s are a little trickier to get just right. Eye relief, stray light etc are issues there. There are quite a lot of models, but get one with a fairly wide field of view, it is usually possible with 32mm.

There is talk of Bushnell coming out with an Excursion binocular with ED glass, this was in some optics shows recently. No idea on date they are available.

There are actually quite a lot of models coming out now, and even new brands. The prices may come down. Even existing model prices may come down. Pentax has some models on sale at various internet stores, I have nit checked here. Vortex also.
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Postby ET on Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:54 am

You can save about 100 right now on the 32mm
http://www.opticsplanet.com/pentax-8x32-dcf-sp.html
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Postby Jne_K on Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:58 am

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Right ET. Bushnell is coming out with an HD version of the Legends. Should be on our wesbite, soon. Stay tuned.
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HD binos

Postby WstHntr on Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:24 pm

From what you say, it might not really be worth upgrading as of now, maybe wait for new things to come.
Those Pentax sure look great, but are heavier than the monarchs at ~21oz. How do they pull it??? :)
I also looked at the Bushnell Infinity line, look nice, but kind of bulky and heavy too (maybe I have to come to expect lightweight from all med size binos??)
Will the excursion in HD be better than the Infinity line?
Thanks!
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Postby Jne_K on Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:27 am

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You are paying a premium for that open tube body style on the Infinity. More expensive to amke than a conventional roof body.

If you don't need something right away, wouldn't hurt to wait and see what develops. This is the time of year for new models in the bino industry. I'll have to be convinced the ED or HD at these prices will have any noticeable effect on perfromance, but I remain open minded and willing to put it to the test when these come across my desk. On the other hand, you may find some great closeout deals on the older, non-HD versions, so keep an eye open.
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Postby Guest on Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:49 am

WstHntr, I have use both Monarchs and Pentax, and the weight there is not that much more. It is when you get to 30oz you start feeling the weight aroung the neck. But there are plenty of 8x32 out there is really fine glass that weigh a bit less. One weighs the same as the Pentax 8x43, the new Meopta 8x32.
I do not see it here, but it is the little brother of this
http://www.opticsplanet.com/meopta-meos ... 67770.html
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Postby Jne_K on Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:56 am

Hi

We are still in the process of adding the Meopta line. Will add that one, soon.

In general, you don't save that much weight dropping from a 42mm to a 32mm, at least on paper. Usually a matter of three or four ouces when comparing them to the average 42mm under 30oz. However, that is a significant amount of weight when you are carrying a bino around your neck for hours.

These days, a 42mm bino over 30 oz is just not competitive. No reason to settle for anything that heavy with so many good choices under 30 oz.
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