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Zeiss Marine 7 x 50 vs Zeiss Victory 7 x 42

Postby ilpescatore1 on Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:10 am

I am in the market for a pair of high quality binoculars to be used primarily to search for birds and bait schools while fishing from a small boat. I have narrowed my choice to Zeiss and would appreciate any feedback regarding the Zeiss Marine Porro prism 7 x 50 versus the Zeiss FL Victory 7 x 42.

If there are any members out there who have experienced either or both of these binoculars, I'd be thankful for your thoughts.
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Re: Zeiss Marine 7 x 50 vs Zeiss Victory 7 x 42

Postby Jne_K on Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:21 pm

The Victory, via its center focusing, will be the most versatile binocular, good for very short range to infinity and it's also lighter. An IF bino, like the Zeiss marine, is good for medium (30 yards or more) or long range work, but not practical for close in work. If all you are going to do is work from the boat, go with the Marine. If you want a do everything kind of bino, go with the Victory.
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Re: Zeiss Marine 7 x 50 vs Zeiss Victory 7 x 42

Postby spike on Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:46 pm

Before you go out and buy 7x50 binoculars at Zeiss prices, may I suggest you take one look through the new 8x56 Vultures just released for sale this fall by Vortex Optics. Below is a copy of my first correspondence with the company I bought these binoculars from. Vortex has done their homework. These binoculars are fantastic. 56 mm front lenses do make a difference in image quality and low light brightness. smaller 40 and 50 mm front lensed binoculars can not compete with the 56 mm front lenses of the Vultues in resolving detail, maximizing contrast, and intensifying color saturation.
"The most stunning view I have seen through my 8x56s was a group of butterflies on a full bloom shrub at 8 feet in bright sunlight. By the time it was over, 4 or 5 other birders had looked at the butterflies through my Vultures. We all were "Knocked over" by the images of the butterflies, the contrast, color saturation, The image's color and sharpness through 8x56s was stunning. The same view of the butterflies through my old Nikon Monarch 8x40s were not as good. looking at bright saturated colors through the 8x40s did not knock you over. the sharpness of the image was only acceptable, The same images through the 8x56s are simply joltingly stunning.
One area that the Vultures would be fantastic for would be marine use. To my knowledge, Vortex has not advertised to this group. In low light and after dark, boaters need binoculars that have extreme ability to see other boats, hazards, shorelines, and navigation aids. The Vulture's Hugh 56 mm front lenses, best available phase corrected prisms, the Vultures highest quality multicoatings, and the Vultures excellent internal stray light baffling, should fulfill these boater low light needs better than any smaller diameter lensed binocular. The Vulture's argon gas filling eliminates internal corrosion and lens molding in sea water. Topping off the features that benefit boaters, The Vulture's Scratch resistant lenses allow the boater, caught in rain and splashing waves to frequently wipe dry wet lenses without fear of scratching them. All these advantages come at a price point under $400.00. Is there a better binocular out there that will better meet the boaters needs? even putting price aside? Weight should not be as much of a criterion for boaters as the boater probably would not be holding the binoculars, or leave them hanging around their neck for long periods of time. The weight of 40 ounces is still light for 56mm lensed binoculars. One suggestion on coping with the weight is to Buy Vortex's shoulder strap set up and throw away the neck strap that comes with the binoculars. Also I strongly recommend purchasing Vortex's 2x multiplier that slips over one lens. Using the 2x multiplier along with a tripod and tripod mount turns the Vultures with their large front lens into a good quality telephoto.

I again make one suggestion, that suggestion being for you to look through the Vultures at bright colors in low light then look at the same object (that object could be a picture of a colorful bird or it could be a pelican sitting on the post your boat is passing) with any 8x40 or 8x50 binocular. put those binoculars down and take a look at the same object with the 8x56 Vulures. My own experience, so far. is that the view you get with the Vultures is not only better but is startling.
A person outside the birding community often finds it difficult to understand why birding is so attractive. I like to hand a good pair of binoculars to this neophyte birder to look at a bird. The response is almost always the same. "Wow". If that first view is through a pair of Vortex 8x56s, the view Wow is elevated to a higher level".
Hope this gets you on the right track.
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Re: Zeiss Marine 7 x 50 vs Zeiss Victory 7 x 42

Postby Jne_K on Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:59 am

Thanks for the great input, Spike.
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