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Need advise on my next purchase

Postby Donald Murphy on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:41 pm

Hello. I have recently got involved in birding and would like to purchase some birding optics. I have read before that when buying a binocular, it is quickly realized that a roof prism is much more expensive to manfacturer than a porro. I am also aware that porro's are cheaper to manfacture and therefore, one can get a quality instrument for under $300. My budget is around $350 to $400 max. I have seen that there are quite afew good choices in this price range, all roofs. But then I came across these. http://www.minox.com/minox2002/index.ph ... &sprache=e http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control ... Navigation

Now I know that roofs are more compact, rugged, and better sealed against water, and dirt. But I have no problem whatsoever carrying around a porro. I want to know, optically, how much am I going to gain by going with this binocular against other roof's in this price range? Infact it would be GREAT if someone experienced can tell me how these bino's would compair to different high end roof's like zeiss conquest, bushnell elite, and other various bino's. BTW, I don't wear eyeglasses.
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Postby opticsplanet.com on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:24 am

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No problem on the Minox, though I doubt their porro is any better or even as good optically than the Swift 820, http://www.opticsplanet.com/swift-8-5x4 ... ulars.html My only gripe about the Swift is the skimpy effective eye relief, but it is still quite useable even with glasses.
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Postby Guest on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:37 am

how does the minox compair to roof prism's in it's price range? I was under the impression that it should be just as good optically as more expensive roofs because of production costs.
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Postby opticsplanet.com on Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:56 pm

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Can't say yet on this brand new binocular, though I suspect it will do just fine. Soon as I see one, I'll report.
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Postby Guest on Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:38 pm

I don't understand. I thought Minox was a premium name brand like zeiss. If am paying this much for a porro, shoud I keep my explectation's low? My brother in law has a nikon premier se 12x50 tripod mounted AND he told me that the only thing as sharp and chear as his is a Swarovski 15x56 WB SLC. And yet they cost much less because they are porro's But lets just assume for a second that the Minox is the same optically as the Swift you linked to. In your opinion, what class of roof prisms would equal them in optical quality overall?
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Postby opticsplanet.com on Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:14 pm

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I'd rate the Swift 820 in the same optical class as a good roof such as a Pentax DCF SP 8x43, http://www.opticsplanet.com/pentax-8x43-dcf-sp.html at least. In other words, very good, especially for the price.

I would not rate the Swift 820 as good as the Nikon SE, though it is certainly very good. As to the Minox, I can only guess until I see one.
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Postby Guest on Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:25 pm

Ok thank you. Just curious, but why did you say that the Minox was probally not better or as good as the swift when you haven't tested one yet? Also does minox have a pretty good line of optics? are some of their binoculars right up there with some of the Zeiss and swarvoski's?
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Postby opticsplanet.com on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:09 pm

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You're right, I jumped the gun. It's just that the Swift is a venerated classic porro prism and definitely one to beat. If the new Minox compares favorably, then it is indeed good, but I'll believe it when I see it. Yes, overall, Minox is a good name.
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Postby Guest on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:39 pm

Hi jonie thanks for the replys :) you have been very helpful. Well i just ordered the Minox. BTW is there a certain reason you think the swift is going to be better? I'm just asking why this is your opinion. Is there something in the specs of this binocular that make you think the swift is goin gto be better that the minox?
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Postby opticsplanet.com on Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:58 am

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Mostly just experience with the Swift. Have owned one and used one and have a lot of confidence in it, so I'm a bit biased, yes.

On the other hand, I see no reason why the Minox shouldn't be a good bino. Thank-you for your order and please post to let us know how it works for you.
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Postby Guest on Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:38 pm

Thanks Jonie for the feedback I apperciate it. When I get my new bino I will make sure to put it through it's paces and post a review on the forum. If you read about this bino on the official Minox site it does appear to have some very promsing features, like internal focusing.
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Postby Jimbo on Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:50 am

Hi. Sorry about the late reply Donald. I would have commented earlier but I just ran across this post. I have the Minox 8x44 BD BP, and optically and mechanically, it is superb. Be prepared, it is a little on the heavy side, but for a 44mm glass, it is one of the most compact design's I have ever seen. Coatings are excellent, reflect very little light. Infact, minox claims that this binoculars has a 94.5% light transmission. Another HUGE advantge is that this binocular has all internal focusing, making it atleast as waterproof as some roofs. Unfortuneatly, I have not had much of an opportunity to compair it to other high end roofs, but at a local sportsman club I did get to compair it to some other mid range roofs. These include the Leupold 8X42mm Wind River Pinnacles, Kowa 10x42 c3, and a set of Pentax 8x43 DCF SP 's. I can say honestly, that my Minox was brighter AND sharper than the pinnacles and kowa, and was pretty darn close to the Pentax, except that my Minox was a bit brighter. Minox also has a good 30 year warranty.
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Postby opticsplanet.com on Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:14 pm

Jimbo

That's great feedback. Thank-you. Keep it coming.
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Re: Need advise on my next purchase

Postby Jne_K on Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:53 am

Long live the high end porro, a vanishing species. Good work, Minox
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