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what's better than the Pentax DCF SP 10x43?

Postby mk9 on Tue May 28, 2013 12:15 pm

I was attending a graduation this past weekend. I was viewing speakers from about 150 yards away. There was no heat waves so the view was clear. Roof or Porro, I'm wondering how much better can it get?
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Re: what's better than the Pentax DCF SP 10x43?

Postby Steven_L on Tue May 28, 2013 12:51 pm

You can get significantly and obviously better performance from a variety of high end binocular manufacturers like Zeiss, Swarovski, and others, but that performance comes with a price. When you get to the price range of the Pentax, every small percentage increase in performance requires a deeper dig into the wallet. Top quality optics must be seen to be appreciated, they are unbelievable. The image stabilized binoculars are not gimmicks, either. They are awesome.
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Re: what's better than the Pentax DCF SP 10x43?

Postby mk9 on Tue May 28, 2013 2:01 pm

Steven_L wrote:You can get significantly and obviously better performance from a variety of high end binocular manufacturers like Zeiss, Swarovski, and others, but that performance comes with a price. When you get to the price range of the Pentax, every small percentage increase in performance requires a deeper dig into the wallet. Top quality optics must be seen to be appreciated, they are unbelievable. The image stabilized binoculars are not gimmicks, either. They are awesome.


So not even the Vorex HD or Nikon Premier line yield noticeable results?
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Re: what's better than the Pentax DCF SP 10x43?

Postby Steven_L on Tue May 28, 2013 2:14 pm

Yes, you should see some better performance from those excellent binoculars, but in many cases you'll have to see the difference by direct comparison on an optical chart with the glasses steadied on a tripod. This is not how binoculars are used in the real world. The Pentax DCF SP binoculars are a real star in that price range.
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Re: what's better than the Pentax DCF SP 10x43?

Postby mk9 on Tue May 28, 2013 2:36 pm

Steven_L wrote:Yes, you should see some better performance from those excellent binoculars, but in many cases you'll have to see the difference by direct comparison on an optical chart with the glasses steadied on a tripod. This is not how binoculars are used in the real world. The Pentax DCF SP binoculars are a real star in that price range.


Stated very well. Thank you
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Re: what's better than the Pentax DCF SP 10x43?

Postby Steven_L on Tue May 28, 2013 3:49 pm

You're very welcome, have fun! Your existing glasses are great products!
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Re: what's better than the Pentax DCF SP 10x43?

Postby PhilR. on Tue May 28, 2013 10:00 pm

I'm a big fan of Pentax products (two bins and a spotter), but there are a lot of binoculars that are better than the SP. A few that IMO are slightly better are the Meopta Meostar 10x42 HD, Zeiss Conquest HD, Vortex Razor, and the Zen Ray Prime. Some that are a lot better are the Ziess FL's, Swarovski Swarovision and Habicht 8x30W, Steiner Peregrine XP (not the regular Peregrines), Nikon SE, EDG, and LX L, Kowa Genesis, and Leica Ultravids. I would also bet that the Alpen Raniers will also easily outdistance the SP's too. The SP's are a good mid-level set of bins. High-level bins (aks "alphas") will be noticeably better.

That being said, there's not a lot you could do with a $2.2k Swaro that you couldn't do with a set of SP's.....
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