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Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby menglera4 on Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:54 am

I am currently looking to purchase a pair of binoculars for myself to use for work and personnally. I can't say I really have experience with binoculars nor do I really need a pair personnally, however, I am a Professional Home Inspector and in the instances where I am unable to get on a roof to inspect it I have to rely on a small, cheap pair of pocket binoculars (got theme as a bonus with cologne) to veiw the roof from the ground. They do the job (10x magnification)put they're not the best since sometimes the image is a little blurry. Nonetheless, I am looking at the Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars CO10862 and the Bushnell Pacifica 20x50 Insta-Focus Binoculars. As far as I can understand the difference between the two is that the one pair is 20X zoom with an automatic focus, while the other ranges from 10X-30X allowing to find the object then zoom in further... knowing this i'm not sure which one is more beneficial/practical for me... more so I'm not sure of the difference between the two types of consumers that these were created for... So Basically since I know nothing about binoculars it makes sence to "ask the experts". both are equally priced so cost isn't the issue, application is. please help! thank you!
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Postby Jne_K on Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:57 am

Hi

Sorry, both are very poor choices.

First, anything with a magnification greater than 10x (first binocular number) will require a tripod for steadiness. You cannot handhold a high magnification instrument steady enough to use effectively. Unless you plan to use a tripod, stay with 10x for a first number.

Second, both of these are very low quality, optically. Zoom binoculars, in particular, are the worst case scenario in poor binocular optics and durability. Not recommended for any serious use.

You will do much better with a standard 10x50 of decent quality. Under $100, try Celestron Oultand LX10x50.

For a discussion of the basics on binocular construction and numbers, see our article How to Understand Binoculars and how to Buy Binoculars?
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Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby menglera4 on Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:22 am

Thank you for quick, honest response... as I said I know nothing about binoculars and you just solidified that for me! I have a few follow up questions... what would be the maximum magnification one would consider to use as a handheld.. can you go as high as 12x or 16X or is 10x the most? Second do you have any other recommendations, preferably <$50? lastly, I have a tripod that i use with my digital camera... are these (screw type) tripods universal and compatible with binoculars? thanks again!
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Postby Jne_K on Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:24 am

Hi

It's not worth going to a 12x and definitely not doable with a 16x unless you mount the bino to a tripod. Otherwise, what little you gain in detail is more than lost due to image unsteadiness.

You can add many binos to a camera tripod with a basic tripod adpter such as the Bushnell. Be sure the binocular is listed a tripod mountable or tripod adpter threaded.

You take a hit in quallity and performance when you drop below $50, but try the Bushnell Falcon.
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Re: Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby Someone not paid by optics planet on Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:15 pm

I just purchased a pair of Bushnell Pacifica's. These are great bino's. The personal optics specialist paid for by Optics planet.com is completely wrong...You do not need a tri-pod to use bino's greater than 10 power. Zoom bino's are completely fine to use. I use these for law enforcement. I enjoy the prices on optics planet but their advice is bad
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Re: Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby Jne_K on Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:56 am

Hi

Thank-you for your feedback. You must have unusual steadiness, far and away above what most of us have in this regard. Good for you. However, after selling and using binoculars for over forty years, I can guarantee that most people DO NOT have the ability to steady a 20x binocular without some support, ESPECIALLY when trying to study fine detail. If all you want to see is the general view, that is one thing, but it is quite another to try to study fine detail, as this gentleman is doing, above. Take your 20x bino and try to read a sign with lettering that you can just barley make out and then tell me you don't need to support your binocular. Or do you brace against a vehicle window in lieu of a tripod? Amounts to the same thing.
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Re: Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby wildman on Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:59 am

I have enough trouble just steadying an 8x42 and even a 10x is getting hard to use, not to even mention trying a 20x or 30x binocular without a tripod. That's nuts. if you want to take the word of a guy who buys zoom binoculars, go for it, but his advice stinks.
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Re: Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby PhilR. on Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:17 pm

Evidently, "someone not paid..." thinks that everyone else's experiences and abilities will be the same as his, which of course is completely asinine. The average person will not be able to hand-hold steady anything above 10x, and a lot of people cannot even do that. And while Bushnell does indeed makes some good binoculars, they also make cheap stuff that is only good for casual use in the backyard. Anyone who thinks that an inexpensive zoom binocular has good optics just hasn't used much in the way of binoculars in the first place.

It's like the old saying -- if all you've ever had to eat was crap, then you probably think it tastes pretty darn good. But it really doesn't.

To the OP -- there is no zoom binocular in your budget that is worth the money. Also, the optics of high-powered but cheap binoculars are dismal as well. Do yourself a favor and listen to what Joanie has to say, as she has used (and yes, she uses them, and not just sells them) much more than the great majority of persons on the planet has seen. Get something in the eight to ten magnification range*, and has a decent objective lense size. Also, you can't get great under $50, but you can get pretty good if you are willing to spend a tiny bit more, and are willing to shop around. A set of Olympus or Pentax 8x40 porros would work very well, and can be had under $75, and sometimes under $65. A set of Celestron porros would work as well, and aren't very expensive. The Nikon Action 10x50 is also very good, but does cost a bit more than your $50 limit. I think they make an 8x40 or thereabouts as well.

If small size is important, the Bushnell Legend 8x22 small porro is decently bright, as is the Pentax small 8x UCF's.

*I would recommend 8x, because in your situation, there's nothing a 10x can do that an 8x could not, and you will get a slightly smaller but also brighter set of binoculars for the money.
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Re: Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby jerryo on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:26 pm

Someone not paid by [link=http://www.OpticsPlanet.Com]optics[/link] planet wrote:I just purchased a pair of Bushnell Pacifica's. These are great bino's. The personal optics specialist paid for by Optics planet.com is completely wrong...You do not need a tri-pod to use bino's greater than 10 power. Zoom bino's are completely fine to use. I use these for law enforcement. I enjoy the prices on optics planet but their advice is bad


In general, zoom binoculars unless they are the very top like a Leica Duovid for over $2,000. are a bad idea.
The user here obviously does not have much experience.
Take the advice of Joanne here, they do sell zooms, but you would be disappointed in most cases.
Binoculars over 10x are hard to handhold, but a 12x can be used for short views. For extended viewing,
most users prefer 8x or 10x. You will see more with a good 8x than a cheapo 12x.
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Re: Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby jerryo on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:53 pm

menglera4 wrote:I am currently looking to purchase a pair of binoculars for myself to use for work and personnally. I can't say I really have experience with binoculars nor do I really need a pair personnally, however, I am a Professional Home Inspector and in the instances where I am unable to get on a roof to inspect it I have to rely on a small, cheap pair of pocket binoculars (got theme as a bonus with cologne) to veiw the roof from the ground. They do the job (10x magnification)put they're not the best since sometimes the image is a little blurry. Nonetheless, I am looking at the Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars CO10862 and the Bushnell Pacifica 20x50 Insta-Focus Binoculars. As far as I can understand the difference between the two is that the one pair is 20X zoom with an automatic focus, while the other ranges from 10X-30X allowing to find the object then zoom in further... knowing this i'm not sure which one is more beneficial/practical for me... more so I'm not sure of the difference between the two types of consumers that these were created for... So Basically since I know nothing about binoculars it makes sence to "ask the experts". both are equally priced so cost isn't the issue, application is. please help! thank you!


I do want to offer some advice to a home inspector. My daughter and son-in-law have been looking for their first home, so I can relate, as they have sent me their inspections.
First off, your picks as presented here would be really out of this world, too much power is a bad thing! First off, anything Barska, is very
entry level, and very hard on your eyes, move on. You do not want a zoom or anything above 10x for general viewing.
A nice 8x would be very good for home inpecting a roof, and check with a sales person here, I would recommend
something like the 8x40 Nikon Action, under $100.00 and adequate for your needs. Nikon offers a 25 yr. limited warranty, and as their name goes, they build nice optics.
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Re: Barska 10-30x60 Zoom Binoculars vs Bushnell Pacifica 20x50

Postby Jne_K on Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:46 am

Thank-you - I couldn't agree more and that Nikon is a good pick for the money.
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