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JudyT



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Kowa Tsn 821M Reply with quote

What can you tell me about the Kowa 821 and 822 scopes? Have they been discontimued ( I don't see them mentioned in your inventory) My friend has one with the 20-60 eyepiece and seems to like it fine. Has it been replaced with some new model, or did they have problems. Would a used one be a good buy for mid to long range spotting of rifle targets?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i can tell you that they are great scopes and that I was sorry to see them go. No, can't get them, anymore form Kowa, and that is a shame. Kowa has moved on to the 770 and 880 series. If you can find any of the 820 series, though, grab one. The big Kowas have always been the darling of long range competiton shooters.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do the 820s compare with the new 770s and 880s? The price difference is HUGE. Are the new models really that much better?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The new models are better, yes, but it also depends on which version of the 820 series you are comparing, here. The fluorite versions of the 820 series - the 823 and 824 were also much more expensive than the standard glass versions of the 820 - the 821 and 822.

The new series also use an upgraded eyepiece over the older 820 series. Yes, I would rate the new series better in every way, but then, the 820 was no sluch, either. Just a matter of how much performance you want and need.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a very old Kowa TS1. I'm a competitive rifle shooter and use the scope to spot shots. The TS1 I have is 60mm with a 25x eyepiece. I have a hard time seeing my shots at 100 yards in low light and pretty much can't see my shots at all at 200 yards. I was thinking of going with a TSN-773 (or TSN-771)...bigger than what I have now so hopefully brighter, but not so big that the scope takes up my entire gear bag.

I guess I'm wondering how much of a difference Flourite makes in brightness of a target and shots. I can't really afford a TSN-883 so would it make sense to go with a Flourite 77mm or a non-flourite 88mm.

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If size and weight are issues, I would go for the XD version of the 770. It will get you near the resolution of the larger non fluorite 880 in a smaller package. Either scope will easily handle 200 yard work and more.
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