Settling time on Elite 4200 scopes

 
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NW Hunter
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Settling time on Elite 4200 scopes Reply with quote

How does an Elite 4200 scope react to elevation and windage adjustments? If 4" of elevation is dialed in, does the first shot move up 4"? Or does it take several shots to settle in? I currently have a 3200 4x12 40mm on a 300 Win that takes two shots for turret adjustments to settle in. I want to be able to dial in elevation adjustment for shots out to 400 yards without holdover. I'm partial to the Rainguard coating. Question
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Where in the World is Big Squeeze? Reply with quote

Big Squeeze, it seems to me that this question is tailor made for you. What can you tell us?? ?? ?? ?
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Settling time on Elite 4200 scopes Reply with quote

NW Hunter wrote:
How does an Elite 4200 scope react to elevation and windage adjustments? If 4" of elevation is dialed in, does the first shot move up 4"? Or does it take several shots to settle in? I currently have a 3200 4x12 40mm on a 300 Win that takes two shots for turret adjustments to settle in. I want to be able to dial in elevation adjustment for shots out to 400 yards without holdover. I'm partial to the Rainguard coating. Question
..................YES! The 1st shot will move after the dial in and it does not and should not take several shots to settle!!!
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MrGman
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: scope settling Reply with quote

So Big Squeeze. What you are saying is that if you turned the elevation up 16 clicks for 4 inches at 100 yards, after the first shot you would see approximately a 4 inch change and the second shot would have no change or be within the accuracy limitations of the rifle.

If the rifle shoots 1 inch groups (1 MOA) at 100 yards, than there could be in reality 1 inch spread around that theoretical center line whcih would have nothing to do with scope settling out but simply the limitations of the rifle (+/-1/2 inch from that centerline). If the gun has a 2 MOA at 100 yards, a shooter could see up to +/-1 inch of deviation from the center of the average of that group and might mistakenly think the scope isn't settled out when in reality he isn't going to get a more precise printing out of his shots no matter what he does with the scope.

I have seen good rifles with mediocre scopes be just as consistent if not better than a great scope on a mediocre rifle. Its still up to the shooter holding the thunder stick steady and the thunder stick being consistent in how the bullet leaves the barrel and heads off to the paper.

Point is I usually suspect shooting technique and/or the gun itself before I suspect the scope.

So Squeeze I am guessing that the rifle you have that scope on is pretty accurate but of course not perfect, so when you see your groups deviate possibly +/- 1/2 inch in any direction at 100 yards, you don't go and adjust the scope bullet after bullet, right?
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Big Squeeze
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: scope settling Reply with quote

MrGman wrote:
So Big Squeeze. What you are saying is that if you turned the elevation up 16 clicks for 4 inches at 100 yards, after the first shot you would see approximately a 4 inch change and the second shot would have no change or be within the accuracy limitations of the rifle.

If the rifle shoots 1 inch groups (1 MOA) at 100 yards, than there could be in reality 1 inch spread around that theoretical center line whcih would have nothing to do with scope settling out but simply the limitations of the rifle (+/-1/2 inch from that centerline). If the gun has a 2 MOA at 100 yards, a shooter could see up to +/-1 inch of deviation from the center of the average of that group and might mistakenly think the scope isn't settled out when in reality he isn't going to get a more precise printing out of his shots no matter what he does with the scope.

I have seen good rifles with mediocre scopes be just as consistent if not better than a great scope on a mediocre rifle. Its still up to the shooter holding the thunder stick steady and the thunder stick being consistent in how the bullet leaves the barrel and heads off to the paper.

Point is I usually suspect shooting technique and/or the gun itself before I suspect the scope.

So Squeeze I am guessing that the rifle you have that scope on is pretty accurate but of course not perfect, so when you see your groups deviate possibly +/- 1/2 inch in any direction at 100 yards, you don't go and adjust the scope bullet after bullet, right?
Cool
........................That`s right! The only time I make ANY final adjustments on the scope is to zero in a particular hunting load...........I usually don`t even mess with the scope shooting different loads at the range. Most of, if not all, my reloads are always on the paper.
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