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whats the best i can get for 500-700$

Postby qbnizp on Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:50 am

Hello...
I was trying to find the best spotting scope\telescope used primerely for terrestrial viewing.
the scope dont have to be very portable\lightweight as it will be used mostly from my porch to look at the distant view.
i would like the best high power (x60 and up) image quality i can get on optimal day (i know im asking alot), so i wonder if it will be best to get a spotting scope such as "Celestron Regal 100 F-ED" or maybe some modified refrector, or perhaps taking the famous "celestron c5" and upgrade its eyepieces up to the 700$ mark.
any idea will be much appreciated as it is my first scope and only been reading for a few days on the topic and totally got lost as there can be so many different options..
thanks :)
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Re: whats the best i can get for 500-700$

Postby Jne_K on Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:17 am

Hi

Most conventional spotting scopes, like the Regal 100 F-ED are, in fact, small refractor telescopes and, in the case of the Regal, an excellent refractor telescope. The C5 is certainly a great choice, but I like the Regal 100 F-ED on this one for its superb contrast and correction and you can also use telescope eyepieces on the Regal, same as on the C5. Both scopes will handle magnifications far above 60x, but only when the atmosphere allows it and that is seldom the case in many parts of the country. For instance, where I live, now, in northern Wisconsin, I only rarely get to use even 60x, but when in I lived out west in a much drier climate, I often used 80x, effectively.

Keep in mind that both the Regal 100 and C5, we are talking big scopes and that means it will be a huge mistake to go cheap on a tripod. As a minimum, I would recommend a basic Bogen such as the 055XDB, 128RC for scopes in that size range.
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Re: whats the best i can get for 500-700$

Postby qbnizp on Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:48 am

firstly thank you very much for the fast reply! thats pretty much sums it up..
so do you think i can place a 2x Barlow and still get a decent image on an ideal day (im from israel not the US :) )? and will i get a noticable better view if ill buy a better zoom eyepiece such as a "baader hyperion 8-24mm" or similar "vixen"?
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Re: whats the best i can get for 500-700$

Postby Jne_K on Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:41 am

Hi

Forget the barlow and trying to overdo on the magnification by day. You can't beat Mother Nature, here. Best I've ever been able to do on an exceptional day in a very dry climate is about 100x without losing detail and that was a very exceptional day. Most days, your max will be less and, typically, much less. Adding a barlow to a typical zoom puts you way over the top on useful daytime magnifications. The story is different at night if you plan to do astronomy and there the barlow will be useful.

Actually, the zoom on the Celestron is quite useable. Don't think you will gain much by trying to upgrade it with any telescope zoom eyepiece, with the possible exception of the very expensive Pentax 70509. Save your money for a good tripod.
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Re: whats the best i can get for 500-700$

Postby qbnizp on Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:02 am

Interesting... that eyepiece is the same that comes with the Pentax PF-80ED is'nt it? if so did you had a chance to compare both the Pentax PF-80ED and the celestrone with that eyepiece?
do you think the Celestron Regal 100mm will outpreform the more expensive Pentax with that eyepiece?
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Re: whats the best i can get for 500-700$

Postby Jne_K on Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:16 am

Hi

You could use that eyepiece in the Regal, yes, but, again, I think you should at least give the Regal zoom a try. Going to the Pentax will not solve the problem of trying to use excessive magnification by day, but it would sharpen up the optics a tad and provide more eye relief. You also get a more ruggedly built scope with the Pentax, but for your application, I wouldn't regard that as a factor.
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