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glendor
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:44 pm    Post subject: night sky/terrestrial Reply with quote

I been looking at the Oberwerk 22x100mm for 400.00$

For 400$ can I get a better pair than the Oberwerks?

Can someone who has looked through the Oberwerk 22x100mm give me a comparison?

Im looking for the best stargazers for 400.00$
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ranburr
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For less than $100.00 more, you can get a pair of Steiner Observers in 25x80. The Steiners are a much higher quality product.

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glendor
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are over 240.00$ more,I would like to know the best for "400.00"

Ill be priceing them on opticsplanet
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ranburr
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The binos you are looking at are of very low quality. The Steiners can be had in the price range that I mentioned if you shop the web and make a few calls. List price is very rarely sales price where optics are concerned. List price is usually set by the manufacturer. I would assume that Optics Planet will meet or beat any legitimate price that you can find elsewhere. In the $400 range there really isn't anything of even descent quality for what you want. My advice would be to save a few more bucks and get something of higher quality that will last you a lifetime.

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glendor
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do the Celestron 25x100 Skymasters compare to the oberwerks?

Has anybody used these?
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gcr
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:26 am    Post subject: under $400.00 Reply with quote

I may suggest that you try Cloudy Nights Forum on binos. Most will rate the Oberwerks better than the Steiners in the 20-80/100mm range. In fact, most of the users are extremely happy with the optic quality/eye relief and FOV of the Oberwerks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose there is some leeway on this issue. The obers i have do a fair job at night. Color defrac on bright objects, but do a nice job on more faint objects. They do a nice job with night terrestial veiwing. Lot of bang for the buck however you look at it. But hey , nobody said you were getting fuji's for $150 - 400 anyway.

I would say if you can somehow actually field test some, that would be good for you to know what you are gietting. Also, there was a web site that i dont know is around anymore or not, but i think it was bigbinos or something like that. Anyway, this guy reiviewed every make and model in history. I am not kidding, he was the ultimate binocular stud of all time. He was very hip on the oberwerks for all around value, pound for pound best around for the price. In other words, not the best, but for what your paying, which is basically half or less than others, your getting alot.
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michael
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following link has many reviews that you might be interested in:

http://www.cloudynights.com/breviews/binorev.htm
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John
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the market myself and have done an extensive websearch for reviews of the big bino's. General concensus with the big bino's seeems to be.... Big Steiners get sent back (alignment, focus etc,). All brands of big binos... plan on spending a couple hundred dollars on a tripod strony enough to hold them, especially the Celestron 25 x 100 which weigh about nine pounds...your arms won't hold them and neither will a standard tripod. Also, the big bino's will show more in a narrower field of view but resolution and focus seems to give problems. Great reviews on Oberwerk's 20 x 80 LightWeigts (only 3.6 lbs) and Oberwerk's 20 x 80 Standards. Although the magnification is somewhat smaller you get overall better resolution, brightness and clarity and the lighter weight makes them easier to use. More is not necessarilly better unless you've got a few grand to drop into Fuji's. Don't bother to shop around .... everybody has them at the exact same price ($199.99 for the lightweights and $229.99 for the standards. But Google them for the reviews and read them for yourself. I'm going with the 20 x 80 lightweights.

Good luck.
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