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Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by Jne_K on Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:04 pm

It all depends on what kind of detail you want to see and also on observing conditions. If all you are trying to do is id it as an animal, not a bush, tree and so on, you can use your 15x58 under ideal conditions, assuming you also have experience glassing at those ranges. Much different story if you are trying to evaluate an animal for its trophy potential. No way you are going to count points at those distances with a binocular.

Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by willdog07 on Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:57 pm

i am an avid outdoorsman and have been glassing animals at long distances up to 3 miles with my minox 15x58ed for years know and get good resolustion up to about 2 miles on elk size animals and 1 mile on deer size game why would a more powerful scope not work better. Please explain

Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by Jne_K on Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:05 am

Forget any spotter at that distance if you are trying to do anything more than just separate an animal form a tree or bush and, even then, the atmosphere will shut you down 9 days out of ten. The atmosphere is the killer, here. You are asking more from a spotting scope than it can do

Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by PhilR. on Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:24 pm

willdog07 wrote:Thanks again guys,
Which would you choose between
Pentax 80 ed
nikon fieldscope 2 80


You might find the Better View Desired website very interesting. It lists the Pentax 80ED to be the reference standard for 70-80mm scopes, mostly because of the eyepiece that it normally comes with.

IMO one scope does not stand higher than the other, so I would be very happy with either. If I were to purchase one today, it would be the one that I could find at the lower price. One thing to consider is that the Pentax can use regular 1.25" telescopic eyepieces, and there are a great many good ones to choose from, in both fixed and zoom focal lengths.

That being said, I'm not sure if even an 80mm ED spotter of any brand will do well at 5300 yards. You should probably be looking at a TeleVue 85 or similar, along with a backpack big enough to carry it and the tripod you will also need......

Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by PhilR. on Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:11 pm

bearclawthedonut wrote:Willdog07:

Unfortunately, the very good (and very expensive) Pentax SMC Zoom will not come to focus at or anywhere approaching infinity in the little PF-65ED2. Maybe at 20 - 50', but certainly not at 3 miles.


Hmmm... after reading this, I took my 65EDII w/SMC zoom outside and looked at things that are quite far away, including the moon. The 65 focused just fine on everything, including the moon.

Now, before you call me out on this, I do know that the distance to the moon is not infinity. However, I do know that it is a bit further away than three miles.

Evidently, there is something wrong with your scope. Perhaps you can get Pentax to fix it for you.

Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by willdog07 on Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:00 pm

Thanks again guys,
Which would you choose between
Pentax 80 ed
nikon fieldscope 2 80

Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by bearclawthedonut on Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:00 pm

Willdog07:

Unfortunately, the very good (and very expensive) Pentax SMC Zoom will not come to focus at or anywhere approaching infinity in the little PF-65ED2. Maybe at 20 - 50', but certainly not at 3 miles. However, most other 1.25" eyepieces will work. But not the good Pentax zoom or for that matter the also very good (an much less expensive) Baader Hyperion zoom. The Vixen zoom is a good not too expensive ($219) zoom that does work and of course most fixed focal length 1.25" eps will also work.

As for an 80mm scope, that's an excellent idea, as long as you bring along a gun bearer to carry it.

Good luck.

Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by willdog07 on Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:25 am

Thank you for your advice do you think i should be looking at an 80mm scope and if so what do you recommend

Re: compact spotting scope please advise

Post by PhilR. on Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:52 pm

Hello,

Within that group, the Nikon Fieldscope would be the "winner". However, I would add that if you were to get a Pentax 65EDII body only and add their high-end 8-24mm zoom eyepiece, then I think you would have a combo that would take first place.

Please note that Pentax sells two different zoom eyepieces, and the one that is normally bundled with the 65EDII as a kit is their lower level eyepiece. It's a good eyepiece, but it won't bring the body up to the level of the Fieldscope. Unfortunately there is very little information about doing this here, but there are some other optics sites where you can read some other opinions about this combination.

One last thing --- I doubt that any compact spotter will do well at distances over 5000 yards.....

compact spotting scope please advise

Post by willdog07 on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:28 am

hi im am looking at a couple compact spotting scopes and would like some opinions.
nikon fieldscope 60 ed
minox 62
leupold 12x40 60mm golden ring
pentax 65 2 ed
Or any others you might recommend. this scope will be carried through the mountains long distances and be used for spotting animals up to 3 miles. will any of these work or will i have to go to the big 3

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