I bought these with high hopes, but I was wrong. They seemingly fit fine while standing and walking but sit in these pants and ouch! They ride up in the crotch area horribly and make them good for little or nothing. Worse off I took the tags off because they were fine standing and walking, I didn't think to sit in them prior to removing the tags so now I'm stuck with them. I love 5.11 stuff but save yourself the time and money on these.
Cons: Not a good fit for duty wear
This review was written in the old system and had content requirements that are different than reviews written today.