Decription needs to be more clear - CVA Palmsaver Replacement Ramrod .50 Caliber Muzzleloader 26 Inch AC1701

Without the cleaning/loading jag and WITH the palmsaver attached, this rod is 23 inches. It has a huge groove on one side of the palm saver so it can be installed in the gun with the palmsaver in place! This is really nice. My deerhunter came with a 23 inch ram rod. I've been buying TC power rods but with the lack of TC availability and with the fact that TC doesn't make a 23 inch rod, only universal, I got this. But I didn't understand the palmsaver can stay on the rod when installed in the gun, this is fantastic. Also, no one could tell me how long the rod was with and without the palm saver so I hope this helps someone. Loading sabots, I much prefer a solid aluminum rod over fiberglass or resin.