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Deceptive marketing, over priced, actual weights - JP Enterprises Gen 2 Silent Captured Spring System
by
Dusty,
Verified Owner
from ID, United States
Written on August 29, 2021
Dusty's Review of JP Enterprises Gen 2 Silent Captured Spring System
Setups may vary, but mine is a typical AR9 PCC. Specs convieniently missing or wrong. Consider TOTAL price before you buy. The REAL numbers:
SCSS minus shim; 316g
Moving mass, includes spring but not rod, stop or screws; 209g
Stainless slug ea; 21g (.74oz) -incorrect spec
Tungsten slug ea; 46g -not given
Original moving buffer mass, H2 buffer + spring; 209g
BCG slug wt being removed and replaced by SCSS; 73g
Total moving mass target of original, bolt slug w/out bolt body which isn't changing + buffer; 282g
This unit was recommended by JP TS to add mass back from removing bolt slug to function. As is, comes up 12g (.42oz) short of original moving mass.
Spring force is less than original. Added mass would be needed to compensate for lighter spring in addition to the lost 12g.
Will need to swap 1-3 of the stainless slugs for tungsten. That's $40 to $120 in addition to the purchase price; $40 minimum to recover the missing 12g resulting in a net gain of 25g which may not be enough to compensate for the spring, which may also need to be replaced.
If their marketing information was correct people would understand this compares even worse to other products such as Armaspec Stealth Recoil Spring, only $80, which reportedly functions the same or superior in some unspecified ways. I can't speak to that from experience but given the cost difference I suggest you take a hard look at other products. The JP system does allow weight and springs to be adjusted, as do others, but realize you most like will HAVE TO adjust it at significant extra cost. This is probably why many if not most people report not seeing a difference when installing this product and it's mostly recommended to reduce noise and improve smoothness.
If being engineered and marketed to replace existing slug weight in a pcc, it should not require significant extra cost to make it work. $40 for a 9/16" length of tungsten tubing seems excessive and in all makes me feel like I'm being scammed.
With standard AR9 pattern, A5 tube, SCSS length makes it nearly impossible to drop past hammer and get over retaining pin. I was able to litterally scrape it in by compressing the hammer down all the way, but some may need to remove their tube or trigger group to install or service.
No noticable difference in recoil reduction or climb. Might be a little worse actually. Shifting weight to rear might offer a small advantage that most probably won't notice.
If removing mass in your AR9 for faster harder cycling is your goal , this may be for you. But I would argue there are low/no cost ways to do that. To function for intended purpose you may need to add weight. I don't have extra weights or springs yet so time will tell if system is a net gain or loss. So far I'm regretting the purchase on cost alone and deceptive marketing.
Pros:
Quiet
smooth operation
Captured system
Cons:
Excessively expensive
Needs ongoing parts replacement for maintenance.
Nearly impossible to install without removing parts
Best Used for:
Sound reduction
Smooth operation
Would Recommend:
No
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