Seems to be good value but check your bullets - Winchester USA Handgun 9mm Luger 115 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP) Centerfire Pistol Ammunition

I started carrying these because the got good short barrel ballistic gel results from Shooting The Bull 410. Certainly not HSTs but they expanded and penetrated sufficiently. And until 2020, they were really inexpensive and therefore a good value. They're now RELATIVELY inexpensive although so are the Federal Punch rounds. Anyway, I've been using the Winchesters and was happy to find these available at Optics Planet! I would give these 5 starts except one of the bullets looks as though it has been hammered at the base of the ogive on all sides! Really strange and makes me wonder if there are any other quality control problems that can't be seen. Hopefully this is a rare anomaly.