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I have a couple of Surefire suppressors so I have more than a few Surefire flash suppressors.

Pros:

If you have a Surefire suppressor the Surefire flash suppressors are the only way to attach the (sound) suppressor to the firearm. I suspect Surefire might do a hub mount version at some point but who knows?

They do a very good job of suppressing muzzle flash when used as a stand alone device.

Cons:

When used without a sound suppressor you will hear a ping noise after each round fired.

They are not cheap.

Timing can be a bit of a pain the first time or two you attach one.

You will need a Surefire tool to mount these or you will likely need to grind a wrench down some in order to get it to fit (for the first closed tine flash suppressor I installed I bought a crows foot and thinned it down a bit, this allowed me to use a torque wrench).

It does need to be timed and unlike an A2 flash suppressor when used with a crush washer, you will need to be within torque specs.

General information:

If you have a Surefire sound suppressor chambered in 7.62 in addition to using it on a 30 caliber rifle you will also be able to use the same suppressor on an AR15 which has a Surefire flash suppressor in 1/2x28 but not the reverse (a 5.56 sound suppressor will not seat on a 5/8x24 (7.62) flash suppressor…which is a good thing).

While the installation appears intimidating at first as long as you have the right tools it isn’t that bad and Surefire has how to videos on line.

Summary:

In the nature of full disclosure I have two Grey Ghost slides with the other being for a gen 4 17. The are complete opposites. The slide for the factory Glock 17 frame ran perfectly from the beginning and fits the gen 4 frame nicely. It has been fired suppressed and unsupressed and it doesn’t matter, the pistol just runs.

The slide for the 19 gen 4 is a complete hot mess. It was sort of reliable the first time out and that was the best it ever got. It would appear the trigger bar (Glock factory) was rubbing against the bottom of the slide which preventing the slide from going fully into battery without assistance. I was determined to get it to the point where it was reliable but was not successful even after extensive polishing of the trigger bar. This was one I should have returned to Optics Planet right away but did not as I was somewhat determined to get it up and running and I kept it past the point where I thought it was eligible for return (I have done one previous return with Optics Planet which went rather smoothly).

I did contact Grey Ghost directly via email but they appear to be too disinterested to reply. I eventually just sent the factory slide out to get milled for an optic and have had no issues with it at all.

In summary with a sample size of two it is my experience that Grey Ghost slides either run perfectly out of the box or they don’t run well at all. I am still very pleased with the generation 4 17 slide and have run it with three different br

I have used 3 of the more popular non-OEM Glock slides on Glock frame pistols so far. With one of the other “big names” I have been 50% successful meaning one of their slides was completely reliable out of the box and the other one ran sometimes.

I currently have 176 rounds through the Zev slide so I am a little shy of my preferred 200 round threshold. To this point I have not cleaned the pistol but I have yet to encounter a malfunction. After the first trip I had concerns with the accuracy I was experiencing but unfortunately I have to admit it was the shooter and not the gun. On the first trip from rest I was getting a little over 3.5” groups from rest at 25 yards with Federal 124 grain JHP ammunition. The next trip out using all the same setup the groups were right at 2.25 inches so it was absolutely me. With that, this setup didn’t care for the Mag Tech steel case ammo (5.5” at 25 yards) but to be fair that ammo falls in my budget practice ammo category. I got slightly better groups with the 115 grain CCI aluminum case ammo but again this is also budget practice ammo. I have yet to try any JHP other than Federal.

I am running this current setup with all Glock OEM parts other than the slide and the sights. Currently I am also using a Holosun 507 and Ameriglo 1 tall black sights which are barely tall enough to clear the deck of the Holosun but are useable should the optic fail. In addition I am using a Steamlight gun light with an IR laser.

While I am not done

After trying a few different 147 grain JHP rounds through the suppressed APC9 I settled on the Sig Elite V Crown. From what I have seen on line it expands reasonably well in gel tests, but it is also very pleasant to shoot suppressed. I also tried the Federal 147 HST and CCI 147 FMJ ( yes I know the CCI is not a JHP). I do not own a meter so my testing was completely subjective. With that I got 2 rounds in to the Federal before putting my hearing protection back on. I am not sure if the Federal is hearing safe or not but I found it to be a bit spicy. Again without a meter to confirm anything the CCI also was perceived to be a bit louder. The Sig was very pleasant to shoot compared to the previously mentioned rounds. Is it hearing safe? I can not say for sure as I do not have a meter but I personally have no concerns shooting this round without hearing protection when suppressed.

If you are looking for a JHP to shoot suppressed the Sig 147 grain is the way to go in my opinion. It ran without issue in the APC 9. I still have not tried it through a handgun yet but plan on doing so in the near future.

I bought in the hope that it would add some fun to dry fire. It was used with a 9mm Laser Lyte laser cartridge (I highly recommend the cartridge by the way, I have had it for at least a few years and countless battery changes and it just keeps on running). The target has a very hard time picking up hits. It picks up the best on the reset target, the worst on the start target and somewhere in between on the actual target. The user manual only indicates not to use it in conditions that are too bright. I was using it in the basement in the early evening hours with only minimal ambient light. I could frequently see the laser reflect off of the start and reset targets however the frequently would not register. Often it took as many as 5-6 hits on the start target to get it to activate. It’s not uncommon for the unit to take 2-3 hits to register on the actual scoring target. It actually gets very frustrating.

In summary I would say the Laser Lyte training cartridges are a big win but the Quick Tyme target is a waste of money.